Unconventional Anand Karaj
Planning a wedding can be stressful! Not only do you have to take into account your personal wants, but you have your fiancé's wishes to consider too. Then you have to merge your parents’ vision with the vision your fiancé’s parents! Your extended family probably wants a say in how you plan your wedding too! It can get overwhelming.
Do you pick blue or pink as the main color? Do you get married in the summer or the winter? Who should you invite? Should there be a head table? Who sits at it? The result is usually a compromise.
But what if you want to do something crazy? Something that not many people have even considered before? What if you want to break with tradition, completely?
That’s exactly what Shawn Singh Tucker and Baljit “Bally” Kaur Lehal did during their Anand Karaj this summer in Atlanta, GA.
“We walked side-by-side during our Laavan,” said Shawn.
Someone would call this act unusual. Some would call it controversial while others might call it awesome. Regardless of one’s opinion, the bride-and-groom walking side by side around the Guru Granth Sahib (as opposed to the more common groom in front of the bride) is definitely an unconventional act.
“As a kid, when I watched my cousin sister get married, it didn’t make sense to me that the bride walked behind the groom,” said Shawn. “I wondered ‘If men and women are equal in Sikhi, like my parents keep telling me, why is it this way?’ From then on, I knew I wanted to try something different.”
“Before the wedding, Shawn told me he wanted to do the wedding differently,” said Bally. “He said, ‘If you want to get married, you have to do this one thing for me…you have to consider doing the Laavan differently.’ ”
The couple thought about how to do the Anand Karaj in a way so it would embody the Sikh spirit of equality more visibly. They thought about standing during the Laavan and not walking, they thought about alternating who walked in front, and they thought about sitting during the wedding.
“I asked my Naniji her thoughts and she told me that when she got married in the 1950s in Punjab, she and my Nananji didn’t even walk around the Guru Granth Sahib. They sat during the whole Anand Karaj,” said Bally.
Shawn also did research on how other couples had done the Laavan in the past.
“I read something about two Sikh women in a village who got married and I thought to myself, ‘How did they do it?’ I also read that during an Anand Karaj in Delhi the guy went in front twice and then the girl went in front twice. This apparently caused a lot of strife and protest in the community but it made me think, ‘This is something I want to do now!’”
Ultimately, Shawn and Bally decided they would walk around the Guru Granth Sahib together, side-by-side.
Deciding who was on the left and who was on the right was more of a practical issue. “It worked out better with the Palla if Bally was to my right,” said Shawn.
Shawn and Bally were compelled to walk side-by-side because of the visual indication of egalitarianism it portrayed.
“In Sikhi, marriage is one of the biggest public statements that you make. Sadly, in our society men always come before women; men are central and public. But in Sikhi, we are supposed to be equal so, it really bothered me that our most sacred religious ceremony put the man first,” said Shawn. “Plus, I’ve told all my non-Sikh friends that equality is a core Sikh value so if they were to see me walking in front, it would be really hypocritical. It would make no sense.”
“I agreed with what Shawn was saying,” said Bally. “I was really supportive of his thoughts. Many people said we couldn’t do it side-by-side because it’s against tradition, but doing something simply because ‘it’s tradition’ doesn’t make sense. You need to know the logic behind it.”
Bally added, “We never got anywhere by following the rules. Guru Nanak broke every norm and questioned everything. That’s how Sikhi came about, by challenging the status quo. So, why should we stop now? Why shouldn’t we question things that don’t make sense?”
But, Bally had a fear that walking side-by-side might make others upset. “The only thing I was worried about was the possibility of people in the sangat getting so upset that they would interrupt our wedding! I didn’t want them to ruin it!”
So, to mitigate that, Bally and Shawn notified all of their family that the couple was going to walk side-by side so it wouldn’t be a surprise to them. The family was also told that if anyone tried to interject in the wedding, they were supposed to take care of the interruption. “My boys knew what to do,” said Shawn.
Convincing their parents about this idea was a bit more challenging than anticipated.
“I had told my parents from a young age that I wanted a different wedding, but I don’t think they believed I was serious,” said Shawn. “My dad came to the USA at age 12 and has a pretty western outlook and my mom was born in the UK, so I thought convincing them would be a walk in the park. But, it wasn’t at all!”
Shawn’s mother was worried about what others would say and preferred they do anything unconventional in a hotel rather than in a Gurdwara, “You’re going to be ridiculed,” she said. His dad felt similarly, “This is going to be a joke wedding.” After talking through it, Shawn’s parents said they would allow it if the head granthi at gurdwara approved. “I think they were banking on him saying ‘no,’” said Shawn.
“So, I went to talk to the bhai sahib and his response was, ‘You have a point. Walking side-by-side does make sense in terms of Sikhi.’ He told me that throughout Sikh history, the Anand Karaj kept changing and everyone would do it differently, so for uniformity, it was eventually codified in the Rehat Maryada. ‘But that doesn’t mean that the groom walking in front of the bride is necessarily the best way or the right way. In my view, as long as you walk around the Guru Granth Sahib, you can do it however you want,’ he said.”
“My parents still didn’t like they idea but they stuck to their word and let us go ahead with it,” said Shawn. “But it helped that my brother was vehemently supportive of the idea.”
Initially, Bally’s dad was also against the idea. “He said, ‘That’s not how it’s done.’ But once we explained to them reasoning, how walking side-by-side was a way to show respect to the bride and illustrate equality in a partnership, he and my mom appreciated the idea.”
The feelings that Bally and Shawn experienced while walking side-by-side during their Laavan seemed to be unique to their situation. Very few Sikh couples can say they got to look at each other and smile reassuringly during their Laavan. They went through the journey and committed to the Guru, side-by-side.
“I was nervous,” said Bally. “But I saw Shawn next to me and saw him smile, so it calmed me down. I felt less alone, it felt really good.”
“It was really nice,” said Shawn. “It was nice to check-in with Bally and whisper, ‘Are you okay?’ We were doing it together.”
After the wedding, the sangat’s reaction was overwhelmingly positive.
“Old aunties and uncles came up to us, wide eyed and said, ‘That was amazing! I wish we had gotten married that way!’ A few younger college-aged Sikhs said, ‘That was awesome. I’m gonna do that when I get married,’ ” said Shawn. “My parents, who were originally against it, saw everyone’s positive reaction and are now saying it was their idea!”
“Some said, ‘We loved what you did! It as amazing! Well done!’ People were really excited,” remembered Bally. “I’m really happy that we did it this way. I had a lot more fun and it was memorable because I could share it with Shawn.”
- Title
- Unconventional Anand Karaj
- Subject
- en Anand Karaj
- en Baljit "Bally" Kaur Lehal
- en Equality
- en Lakhpreet Kaur
- en Marriage
- en Lifestyle
- en Sikhi
- en Shawn Singh Tucker
- en Relationships
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- Description
- Shawn Singh Tucker and Baljit “Bally” Kaur Lehal share their experience doing an unconventional Anand Karaj.
- Author
- Lakhpreet Kaur
- Date
- 12/3/2014
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Manjit Kaur KBS on December 5, 2014 at 4:56 PM
Lavaan is a metaphor of our spiritual journey towards Waheguru ji. As a soul-bride follows the Husband-Lord as per Gurbani, so does bride in laavan. That is how I understood it. Taking laavan while walking behind my groom did not mean any inequality to me. I consider myself fortunate being woman because submission in intuitive for me, while a man has to make conscious effort to practice it in life to be with Waheguru ji. Marriage is much more blissful in spite of all the ups and downs; if a Sikh couple can understand this simple theory behind laavan and its traditional value.
hsingh on December 5, 2014 at 6:25 PM
You are not breaking apart from tradition. You are disobeying your Guru's hukam, Guru Ramdas Ji's maryada of lavaan. Turning your back to the Guru makes you a bemukh and manmukh. SABHE SHAD SIANPA GUR KEE PAIREE PAHE.
Gia on December 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM
They are worried about equality why not also start using singh and kaur as last names.
hardilazizSingh on December 5, 2014 at 11:34 PM
That is how we can bring Nanak in to our lives by doing things practically in the light of Gurbani. The way of Nanak doing things unconventionally and purposefully to bring positivity and change. Ritualism is nowhere in Gurbani. It was Baba Dayal Singh Nirankari who first introduced the present way of doing Anand Karaj. My best wishes are always with this Nanak namleva high spirited couple.
Gurpreet K on December 6, 2014 at 12:49 AM
As a Kaur I feel shocked that they believe they can change Sikh Rehat Maryada because it doesn't suit them.
Jag Singh on December 6, 2014 at 2:55 AM
Great way to bring a change! The 4 circles were brought into sikhi by nanakari sect during 1866 before that couples actually stood in front of Guru Sahib Ji together. For example we would stand in front of a judge for a verdict. Afterall Guru Sahib Ji give us a verdict during Anand Karaj on how to connect with EK
Down Under on December 6, 2014 at 4:34 AM
I think this is taking feminism to a whole new, unnecessary level.
First of all, just because Sikhi espouses equality, it doesn't mean men and women have to stand side by side in everything. This is a very dangerous trend amongst people these days. You can see it all over the Internet. And I wonder how this little thing made you question the validity of equality between the genders between Sikhism.
Regardless, the Anand Karaj is itself "man made". The Lavaa have been taken out of context. This whole thing is based on the Hindu ritual of walking around the fire, and to me makes a mockery of the Guru Granth. Your grandparents are correct that less than 100 years ago, this ceremony was different.
Sahib Singh on December 6, 2014 at 5:25 AM
First of all Sat Sri Akal, i read the article that was interesting and amazing, can i see the video of this wedding if they want.
Manpreet on December 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM
Shawn .. You could do this because you do believe in equality and you follow it . But For most of so called sikh men it is just a word but they don't mean it . Stay blessed
Kalil on December 6, 2014 at 11:16 AM
I support this couple but , there is always a reason why the groom is in the front.
Kaur on December 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM
Although in good faith, there is major flaw in the way that this ceremony seems to have been conducted.
The bride and groom, in their strive to 'be different' have been quite selective in their practice of Sikhi teachings.
Perhaps through ignorance they have forgotten that the purpose of doing laava is to promise that from now forth, you both commit to Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Jee being the centre of your lives together. It is not about who walks first, rather that you are both circumferencing Guru Jee at equal distance. In the way that they chose to conduct the ceremony, one of them was further from Guru Jee than the other. That my friends is not equality. The equality is based on things that matter. The reason the man tends to walk Infront is because the woman is leaving the home of her parents and joining her husband in their marital home (Regardless of if there is a physical move of home involved or not). It follows on from the palla ceremony where essentially the bride is 'given away' by her father.
If the bride and groom were so concerned about equality, then surely they would have questioned why only the father gives away the daughter, feather than both parents? Truth is, they is a practical and social reason behind everything we do as sikhs. They should have looked I to it deeper before deciding that they knew better. The Granthi Singh should definitely have know better. What hope do the sangat have if the Granthis allow such beadbi?
I think that people should research the meaning of the lava, the reasons why we do parkarima of Guru Granth Sahib Jee before thinking that they know better than learned scholars of the Sikh panth.
Manprit SINGH on December 6, 2014 at 8:06 PM
Anand Karaj- why the groom leads the bride.
This couple obviously needs educating on what an Anand karaj is and Sikhi in general if they're questioning its stand on equality lol.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=60USOUE5M3o
Jasmeet on December 6, 2014 at 8:20 PM
Great thought and executed in very intelligent manner by talking with everyone prior to the anand karaj and making people understand why you doing it .
Very valid point of equality where in you walk your talk too.
Kudos
Mina on December 7, 2014 at 5:09 AM
What an awesomely original idea! It really is one of the biggest steps anyone takes in life and to do it in such a meaningful and positive way is brilliant. It should take people's thinking in a positive way. I think you're both very brave to take on your parents in the way that you did, I'm not sure I would have had the courage.
MrBaaghi on December 7, 2014 at 7:39 AM
When Lavan and sikh marriage tradition was composed in the 15 century (India dominated by Hinduism), This was the time where women was considered a shoe, and man would not respect or do anything for his wife. He took no duty or responsibility of any of her emotions. She was basically a sex slave and a food maker. Gur sahib ji, composed this in a way that, the male took all responsibilities and a promise which he made as he walked around the pothi sahib. The bodies stay separate yet the mind and soul is joined. How is this unequal. Hindusim have there lavan where women walk in front for the half of the time yet they are still considered low?
The message of equality is not shown by such marriage practices, it’s just stirring up fire, The couple does not understand that by walking together in a wedding dosent have any effect on equality, lets say here they walk toghter, after few years they don’t get along and the guy tries to abuse her or does some kind of bad act, then would this equality stay? Not that I would want that to happen, but the point is that where truly inequality exists, we are quite about it. Specially female who live in a mythical norm, where they are in an illusion to believed they have rights, but in reality don’t. Discrimination in workplaces, 23 percent pay gap, rape myths, more than 120 countries don't have laws against marital rape, general abuse, so many feminine issues which show inequality.
The aspect of Sikhism and walking in lavan, firstly the couple who is dedicated to Sikhism should understand the meaning of Lavan in accordance to gurmat, not read English translations and say yep lets do this. Since all living entities are bound and limited in the framework of time and space, the material marriage between the two physical bodies (e.g., a man and a woman) is impermanent — limited to their physical existence only. However, the Spiritual Marriage between the Soul and the Divine Beloved is Eternal or Permanent, because both are Immortal and Imperishable - never die or take birth. But, how can this Divine Marriage or Union between the Soul-bride and her Divine Beloved (Mool, the Pure Consciousness...), can take place? There are four Laavaan. Composed by the Fourth Mahal, these four Laavaan. Thus, they form the bases of both the worldly marriage (two souls becoming one - of one thinking or ਸੋਚ based on the Gurbani) as well as Spiritual Marriage. With the example of a worldly marriage performed on a material plane between a man and a woman, the Gurbani explains in these 4 Laavaan as to how a Sikh — a Spiritual student or seeker — can marry (or link to the Mool within - Aatmaan weds the Husband Lord, within
The marriage is not a
contract for the fleeting lusty pleasure rising from a purely flesh-fleshy
biological function. It is neither a contract between two parties who have
entered into it in the presence of a Pujaaree (priest) at a religious place or
at the table in a office of a marriage clerk. But, seemingly, fed upon the sex absurdities of corrupt psychology, they are making mockery of this holy institution because of our dense ignorance of the scriptures and sanctity of the marriage.
The four Laavaan of the
Gurbani explain the four stages of Spiritual Development of the Jeev
(individual beings), leading them to Divine Union with their True Aspect within (Joti-Svaroopa). Here we are told that the teaching of the Gurbani is the sacred basis upon which the sanctity of marriage is to be recognized by mortals. Thus, the Sikh marriage (or any other marriage for that matter) is a sacramental knot under the roof of True Love, tied in the presence of Gur-Shabad (Aatam-Giaan...). In the pages that follows, this Gurbani reflection will attempt to reflect on the Spiritual Treasure of the Gurbani's four Laavaan.
Living in the western world, we all understand that every group or organization has set of rules which we need to obey. Very sad to see young kids, make changes to which they like. I am sure if you are part of any group or organization, you have to write a contract to obey the rules, similar applies for Sikhism. The wedding act is passed by the Sikh Panth, and no individual should have the power to make any changes to it. However the individual does have the right to reject it, and get married under a different set of traditions.
Harveen on December 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM
Bally and Shawn may you walk side by side happily ever after...
Dalbir Singh on December 7, 2014 at 3:16 PM
I am not sure what is the purpose of Kaurlige.org.
If you are there to promote Sikh in how you - the American Sikhs see the Sikh faith, then you are doing a great job. But on the other hand if you want to promote Sikhi from Guru ji's perspective, then you are doing great injustice. You have picked up the Western philosophy thru your life in America. Further you want to modify Sikh values to suit your purpose. In this Wedding you think you have achieved a new mile stone. Both walking together. This is what you call equality between male and female. Then tell me why not go a stage further and dress them in similar equality fashion. Both wear salwaar kameez, make up and have identical turbans because turban is the Sikh identity. Now they look similar. Let's take a step further - if marriage as per Guru ji's laid out advise in four lava as (I suppose you know the Gurmat meaning of the 4 stages of married life) then bringing your point of equality - which is if he can go to work, so can I, he can drink, so why can't I. It's my life and I can do what Ilike. So when will you tell him it's his turn to conceive the next child because last time you did it. It's his turn to breast feed the baby at night because I did it the night before.
Now you think I am being silly or sarcastic. Why? Because you can't do that. Why? Because the Creator who created such a wonderful network and life has thought about every possible conceivable thing but you Kaurlife know better. Even though he's perfect in every way, in your eyes he's made lots of shortfalls. Like the equality. Do you knot think two pieces of a jigsaw puzzle though different is all aspects when placed in the correct place make a beautiful picture.
I suppose with the Christian Christmas coming up, how many of you American Sikh will ignore Guru Nanak's message of compassion and will sit at the table carving the biggest Turkey you could buy at the Mall.
Finally as you sit tucking into that Turkey, drowning yourselves with alcohol, and wishing each other 'happy ch......m' please spare a thought for the 'Char Sahibzade', their grandma and especially their dad who watched all die right in front of eyes to set s standard to follow by the present day Sikhs. But no - we know bes, this is America in 21st century and the old fashion systems apply to Punjab only.
Looking forward to your next breach of Sikh values.
raj on December 7, 2014 at 5:44 PM
Wow
I can't believe this
Do you even know what u have Started??
Now everyones gonna start doing that
You cant change something thats made by our gurus
Dilmeen on December 7, 2014 at 8:01 PM
The reason we dont walk side by side is not because u are degrading the women but that u both are close to your guru, if u were to walk side by side in your case the husband is further away from his guru.
kulwant on December 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM
if you were after equality, Mr Tucker, did your mother or father gave a "palla" to the girl after/before her mother or father gave hers to you?
And please tell me, it was the mothers who gave the pallas rather than the father as it traditionally done.
Its got to be equal in sikhi you know.
Rawal .Sethi on December 8, 2014 at 4:03 PM
When walking around the lavaan, it is not the question of equality. As a human and sikh , i accept male and female are equal always. But some nature laws apply on both. Men are physically stronger and women have strong patience. When the groom walks infront of the bride, it is considered as he is the protector of his bride. Behind every successful man, there is a woman. Its just symbol of protection.
Narvinderjit on December 8, 2014 at 9:51 PM
Guru Amar Das, the third Sikh Guru tells us on page 788 of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib about the meaning of marriage to a Sikh couple – Effectively, the Guru defines a Sikh marriage in these 2 lines:
"They are not said to be husband and wife who merely sit together. Rather they alone are called husband and wife, who share one soul in two bodies."
Regardless of who walks further we are suppose to see each other as one plus the fact we are all brides of God looking to merge our souls into him from which we have been separated thus it's like God is actually the leader since man and women are both brides. What they did was showing to different entity's and not being one soul they tried to be different but they are Tampering with Gurus ji teaching which is wrong and very costly mistake. Example Guru Har Rai Ji son Baba Ram Rai who was sent by Guru Ji because mughal emperor summoned Guru ji for bani inside of Guru Granth sahib regarding prophet Mohammed or Muslims not sure which Baba Ram Rai changed it thus led Guru Har Rai Ji to excommunicated his son and told every Sikh of thr Guru to follow this Hukum. If Guru Ji is able to excommunicate his son then why do these people choose to change what the Gurus Hukum they did wrong. We are humans we make mistake Gurus don't they are perfect so why change something which Gurus made then?
gurpreet on December 8, 2014 at 11:46 PM
Manpreet . Equality is not natural. It can never be. Look at nature. One will always dominate in a given situation. This act is to gather some popularity nothing more
Kaur4eva on December 8, 2014 at 11:55 PM
Where did this wedding take place ?
Japneet Kaur on December 9, 2014 at 3:51 AM
Could you provide some more information on this Baba Dayal Singh Nirankari? I've been looking for information about the advent of the current Anand Karaj ritual/tradition.
I Singh on December 9, 2014 at 6:22 AM
"We felt....we thought.....we wanted to....etc etc"
#mann Matt
Keep living a fairy tale of your own interpretation of Sikhi. Sikhi is a spiritual path and those not seeking higher levels of spirituality and consciousness can never understand the deeper meanings of rehat and it will all appear a ritual to them.
Those devoid of bhagti and simran will never truly get it because they follow their own mind. Oh smart ones, wish you could make the same amount of effort towards getting your own Sikhi in order.
arjan on December 9, 2014 at 6:23 AM
Very well said , we don't have to bring more confusion to a simple ceremony but should more attention what Gurbani is teaching us as a Sikh.
Navpreet Kaur on December 9, 2014 at 4:34 PM
It's quite probable that Guru Nanak would have applauded this couple for being thoughtful, introspective and challenging norms that are meaningless for them. I applaud the Bhai Sahib and the couple's parents for being open-minded and supportive, as Bebe Nanaki was for her brother who challenged all norms around him.
kuldip singh mann on December 9, 2014 at 7:33 PM
This is wonderful I would see all this way
H Grewal on December 9, 2014 at 10:27 PM
Horrified and disgusted. Im sick of the me first mentality. Change the whole religion because you want something different. As long as you are happy go for it right? Feminism has gone far too far. Whilst i dont fully agree with the old cultural stereotypes you cant change natural law. Women will get pregnant. Women will give birth. Women will breast feed. It doesn't matter how you feel about stereotypes the weight of a family always falls more heavily on the mother. It's not going to change no matter how committed the father is. Unless he can breastfeed it will be mum getting up at 3am. Conversely my wife would not be happy if after hearing the sound of broken glass downstairs at midnight found me cowering behind her for protection. It's all gone too far in my opinion.
Jind Kaur on December 10, 2014 at 1:28 AM
Those that state that the practice of the groom leading the bride in circles around the Sri Guru Granth Sahib was started by our Guru Sahibaan - please provide evidence of this.
This couple took much care in the planning of their wedding and wanted to truly put their Guru and blessed teachings they have received at the center of their Anand Karaj. They walked side by side, not receiving equal treatment, but rather, equal status. If you can provide evidence that such a practice is prohibited, please do so. They also had a woman sing their Laavaan.
The fact that so many are irate at them making any change that isn't actually prohibited shows how stuck to blind rituals many of you are. The beauty of our faith is that our Guru Sahibaan provided us with many guidelines, but purposely did not structure our lives minute-by-minute - Our Gurus made each of us sovereign and autonomous. We look to the Panth for guidance, but that same Panth is in us. If you don't wish to have the same type of Anand Karaj, you are most free to not do the same. You can teach your children how you wish, and decide for yourself what is right. This couple, in their love of their faith, and not in disrespect of it, decided what was right for themselves.
Singh on December 10, 2014 at 1:46 AM
Well Said!!!
Hypocrite on December 10, 2014 at 2:38 AM
Wow, I can't believe I just read this judgmental comment. The equality they are trying to achieve is so much different -- they are trying to convey that man and woman should stand beside each other in everything, not certain gender roles that both genders must do. Standing beside each other and treated equally is not the same as the different roles female bodies can do such as breast feed. Both couples try to make up for it equally instead of the female being an item to the man.
Also, Sikh's in America have just as many values as the people in India. We are still religious and do still carry out values the right way.
I can also say that people in India are also losing their values if you are going to say American Sikh's don't have values-- Sikh's in India are now also wearing Western clothing, love American celebrities, watch American movies, celebrate Valentine's Day, etc.
So, since the way of doing lavan changed anyways since the past, why is this so controversial? It shouldn't be because they stood in front of our Guru equally.
So stop being so hypocritical and judgmental.
Hari Mander Jot Singh Khalsa on December 10, 2014 at 4:59 AM
I am not normally one to engage in philosophical or intellectual discussions on people's religious beliefs. In fact I don't normally read the comments below articles as they usually have a lot of banter about who is right and who is wrong. What is the true way to practice Sikhi, who is a Gurmukh and Manmukh, blah blah blah.
What keeps coming to mind is Guru Nanak Dev Ji's message "Na Koi Hindu, Na Koi Musilman!"
I'm pretty sure the line that follows was NOT "Siraf Sikh"
All of you who sit in judgment about what is right and wrong should remember that our Guru's and the Sangat gave their lives to protect other people's beliefs, and as Khalsa as it is our duty to protect the faith of another and not force our beliefs on one and other.
I am not saying you have to agree with other people's beliefs, but for your Grace and the beauty of Sikhi maintain your Grace in every situation and let the relationship between man/woman and the Guru be THEIRS and theirs alone.
Guru Fateh!
Nimo K on December 10, 2014 at 6:11 AM
[This comment has been edited to remove inflammatory language.] Shame on this Shawn Singh Tucker Character for disrespecting Guru Granth Sahib !!
Raoul on December 10, 2014 at 12:16 PM
Religion BINDS people. Spirituality sets them free. Guru Nanak was a spiritual person. The Sikhs commenting negatively to this act are religious.
Congrats on your wedding. Think about your life ahead not the useless comments of all the so called preachers.
Harbans Lal on December 10, 2014 at 2:03 PM
Jind Kaur ji, I like to support your thinking and your stand, and those of others who expressed similar views in this column. Only authority that guides a Sikh is the Guru Granth Sahib. Rituals and customs are manmade for convenience and can be modified with time as long as they remain consistent with the teachings of the Guru. Cultural norms of Lavaan in current format were promoted many years after the times of the Gurus and they served their purpose. By deviating from the norm set by our society many years ago and for sake of conforming to the current social needs Shawn and Baljit followed the dictates of Guru Nanak who never hesitated to change the social and religious norms that had outlived their usefulness. I must congratulate our Shawn and Baljit for being activists in the community. May Vahaguru bless them in the undertaking and they continue reforming our customs.
Singh on December 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM
Most of the couples now a days try to do something different on their wedding to make it something unique. And they wanted attention and they got it, Just like any hollywood or bollywood celebrity. If you start challenging Sikh Rehat Maryada then, where do you draw the line? And it wasn't drafted by some anti panthic crook overnight but took almost 13 years to develop with a lot of input from Sikh scholars, historians, organizations and it did include women. There might be some flaws in it but this is not the way to challenge it. ONLY panth and Sarbat Khalsa can amend it or change it! Otherwise everyone will start challenging it and this is not the time for it. We already have enough attacks from RSS, deras and other anti panthic organizations and least we need is attacks on our maryada from our "wise" youth. Your love for your Guru is personal but when it involves "Maryada" it is not personal but panthic. Please stop ruining the sanctity of the only document panth has created after a lot of Struggle during Gurudwara Reform movement and Singh Sabha Movement to unite Sikhs.
Monica on December 10, 2014 at 3:25 PM
I'm so proud of my cousin Shawn and his new wife, Bally for starting their life together this way. Walk together always!!!!
DSSOKHEY on December 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM
You are wrong. It was Satguru Ram Singh ji who revived the Sikh religion as Namdhari Sikhs after Maharaja Ranjit Singh's death and introduced the maryada of Anand Karaj on June 3rd, 1863, at village Khote and 6 couples were married. He also gave the Amrit to women for the first time. Check it out.
DSSOKHEY on December 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM
Please search for Satguru Ram Singh as He started this maryada of Anand Karaj in 1863
Kulwinder Singh Ahluwalia on December 10, 2014 at 8:34 PM
Doesn't matter if you were in front, back or parallel to your wife, after marriage, you have to follow her every time anyway.. so actually I think groom leads the bride in laawan coz this is the only time he can gather courage to be in front of her?
Agree on December 10, 2014 at 10:43 PM
You & them need to read the four lavaan & understanding them. Obviously, all of you are clueless!
Agree on December 10, 2014 at 11:07 PM
For all those who "applaud" & "support" this ignorant couple, their parents & the Bhai Sahib please take some time to read & understand the four lavaan. The teachings of Guru Ji are way beyond talking about equality & feminism, or "breaking norms".
This is act of theirs is "meaningless".
Bhupinder on December 12, 2014 at 7:14 AM
I don't think the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji says how a couple should walk during the lavaan. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. Everything except the Guru is ephemeral. Walking together, man in front, woman in front, there are arguments for doing it in all those ways. I agree that we shouldn’t do things blindly, just because that’s how they’ve always been done. We need to think, discuss and have an open honest debate without blaming, shaming and complaining. A little understanding and compassion please and sharing of knowledge.
If you’ve ever been out in nature, walking for a long time in the wilderness, you’ll see that men are happier leading the way, scoping out danger and protecting the group. Women are happier at the back of the group, keeping an eye on everyone, with a full perspective of the route. She makes sure they are going in the right direction and spots dangers that the leader cannot see at the front. The man leading is a reflection of our true nature, in its most basic form. For me, it makes sense that the man leads. I think this is one of those things where we don’t need to re-invent the wheel.
Jagraj Singh on December 12, 2014 at 12:17 PM
Vaheguru! Manmatt indeed.. "His boys were there to stop anyone interrupting"..did they never think of asking Guruji in a hukamnama? Lets hope they all get some sense
kudos on December 12, 2014 at 2:53 PM
[This comment has been edited to remove personal attacks.] Our panth is already divided on so many issues. So rather than doing something to unite, do something to divide us even further. Knowingly or unknowingly, the couple did a great dis service to the panth and to Sikh Rehat Maryada by imposing "all knowing" beliefs on the ceremony of Anand Karaj. Next on the line is Janam sanskar and Amrit sanskar.
Andy on December 19, 2014 at 10:20 AM
Women WILL get pregnant?? Women WILL give birth? Sir, do you think women are obligated to do so? There are women (and men) out in the world who do not want to have children. It is a choice. You no longer live in a world where bearing children is an obligation. And "hearing the sound of broken glass" does not make all women "cower behind" a man. Nothing has gone too far. You are just sadly stuck in your stereotypical ideas of gender roles.
What this couple has done is use their intelligence and not blindly follow traditions. If you are not clear-headed enough to understand why that is a good thing then you are what is wrong with the world.
Harindar Singh on December 28, 2014 at 11:30 PM
well said do not need to add another word which will be further insulting to our Guru who gave all so we can charis his Sikh
Guru bless their wedding
H. Singh
Houston, Texas
Anupreet Kaur on March 25, 2015 at 10:22 PM
Kudos to the couple! The rituals are man made. Sikhism is about spirituality not rites and rituals.
Bride and bridegroom walking together, truly signify equality, besides each other at every step on path of life.
It's beautiful. I wish all the best to the couple.
I request bigots to keep their hate to themselves.
Sim on April 17, 2015 at 5:36 AM
For an anand karaj to be accepted in sachkand it has to be done with full maryada. This clearly will not. We can throw as many references from our guru at people as we want but they will never listen. Kalyug really has left everyone blind and deaf. Every gursikh who has had an anand karaj has done it as per the 'tradition' they wish to be break from. [This message has been edited as it did not follow Kaur Life's comment policy.]
Harkiran Kaur on May 21, 2015 at 8:58 AM
The way I understand it, is that a circle is endless... there is no beginning or end just like akal purakh in Nirgun form, beyond time and space. Imagine a circle of people, and they start to rotate... who can you say is 'leading' or at the beginning? Who is at the end? You can't distinguish because a circle has no beginning and no end. Also, the palla simply symbolizes that the couple are moving as one unit, instead of two separate beings...becoming one soul together. Yes, the man initiates going into the circle but not because he is above the woman, or higher status than her, or in charge of her in any way. It's as someone mentioned to symbolize the soul-bride (all of us) following Akal Purakh into this circle which has no beginning or end (our ultimate goal in nirgun form). The marriage of husband and wife was used as an allegory... a way to describe our relationship to Waheguru. In physical married life, this has nothing to do with any suggestion that the man is in charge, or gets to make all the decisions, or is seen as higher than his wife or that she in inferior. It doesn't mean she has to be submissive to him or obedient even. Allegory has been used in many spiritual traditions to instill the message. In this case, the marriage of soul bride to God. Its purely an allegory...
Besides... think of it this way... who is in charge? The horse, or the chariot rider? ;) Horses have a tendency of spooking and running off violently. Think of it as she is holding his reins, holding the man back from running off and doing things which he should think twice about. Women are the ones who usually analyze situations before acting, while men tend to act on impulse. Just like a chariot rider who acts as a grounding mechanism for the horse, the wife acts to keep the husband grounded.
And just be glad that Gurmat Rehet Maryada (Damdami Taksal) didn't make it as Sikh Rehet Maryada... because that rehet maryada actually has the wife agree to 'serve her husband as God' including bowing to him. This act actually DOES very much denegrate the woman into an inferior position!!
As for gender roles??? It's not for men to allow or disallow women to do things. It's up to women themselves to stand up and demand their equal place alongside men. Petty things like who walks first do not matter. Want to see equality in effect? Women should be running for positions on Gurdwara Management Committees, act as Granthis, participate in akhand paaths, do katha, kirtan, and even step forward to act as Panj Pyares (which is very much allowed by Sikh Rehet Maryada). These same people who sneer at the lavans, how many of you (females) have done any of the above and how often do you see women do these things? I try to put this in practice... and I currently serve on Gurdwara Management Committee - as a woman. The lavans don't bother me, but seeing no women step forward to lead ardas, or do kirtan, or sukhassan, even chaur sahib seva etc that bothers me. I always see the women in the langar kitchen only making rotis... if you want equal opportunity then just step forward and take it! You will find you are supported much more than you think!
Arvinder Singh Sandhu on July 11, 2015 at 3:11 AM
Stupidly and ignorance has no limits, specially when supported by spiritually dead.
Jagdeep Singh on September 13, 2015 at 8:55 PM
This article and practices highlighted within are examples of challenging practices without understanding the basics and reasons behind them. It is the embodiment of the meaning of Laava'n that is more important, rather than who walks in front or behind. Understand and internalize the meaning and spirit of Laava'n first before challenging the practice one way or another. The act of standing during Laava'n is devoid of bowing to and circumambulating around Guru Granth Sahib, the former indicative of one's commitment to the Message Guru and the latter an act of showing that Shabad Guru shall be the centre of one's life. Of course those who stand either don't believe in this or simply do not understand, once again challenging practices without understanding the basics and reasons behind them. Unfortunate!!!
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